Hard Working Traditional Values With A Dash of Fun

Hard Working Traditional Values With A Dash of Fun

Sunday, March 6, 2016

Disney's Zootopia: A Pro Gay Parable


Disney's new animated movie Zootopia got some great reviews so I decided to see it on opening weekend. In our PC world, the reviewers decided to overlook the obvious message that gays are a persecuted minority who are no different than anyone else and that those who are concerned with how gays are perceived as normal in modern society are bad.

This essay has spoilers.

The knee jerk reaction to my view on the movie may be "Get serious. This is only a movie." "You're over-analyzing it." "The message could mean lots of things. It could be anti-racist." "This is just a homophobic rant."

Movies have messages.There is a clear pro-gay, anti-Christian values message in this movie. It is not about racism, which I will clearly show.

There is a culture war that those with traditional values may be losing, but giving up should not be an option. Traditional values are superior to those advocated by many in the LGBT community. This is not hate. Societies that embrace traditional values are healthier than those who embrace hedonism.

Christians are familiar with parables with meaning beyond just the story. Characters and actions in the parables of Jesus represent things. Jesus picked the elements of his parables on purpose to get his point across. The writers of Zootopia have done the same thing.

Zootopia is written by a team of eight writers. They include many who worked on Frozen. Frozen has been embraced by the LGBT community for having a heroine who is different, has a secret others don't understand, and isn't interested in men. Many see "Let It Go" as a gay anthem.

One of the story writers on Zootopia is Phil Johnston whose credits include a raunchy comedy named Cedar Rapids, a curious pedigree for a Disney movie. I haven't seen the movie, but I have read that it is sympathetic to gays.

I recognize that the gay acceptance message is not the only message of the movie. There is also the message that you should reach for your goals and not give up. Nevertheless, notice how much of the movie advances the pro-gay agenda:

  • The villain in the movie is a sheep. Why pick a sheep? The sheep is an animal associated with Christians. Jesus referred to his followers as his sheep. Jesus is called the lamb of God. The sheep is selected as the villain because in the LGBT world view, it is Christians who are the enemy because they condemn LGBT sexual practices as sinful.
  • In the world of Zootopia, predators and their prey now live together in peace. They are the same. They are equal.To believe ugly things about predator behavior based on what was once believed by society is wrong. There is nothing wrong with predators. They won't eat you. This is the message of the modern LGBT community. Past generation may have treated gays as wicked and evil, but they were wrong. Today, everyone should recognize that gays are perfectly normal like everyone else. They won't eat any of your children.
  • Judy Hops, the main character bunny, is counselled by her traditionalist parents not to trust foxes, because they are predators by nature. They give her fox spray she can use to keep herself safe from foxes. The message here is that the values of parents are dated and bigoted.
  • Nick Wilde, the main character fox, relates a traumatic experience as a young child where he was kicked out of a scout troop for being a predator. This is an blatant swipe at the Boy Scouts for their position on excluding gays. This is not the first time Disney animators have poked fun at the Boy Scouts. In The Emperor's New Groove, Kronk, the party hosting, treat baking, apron wearing, body builder who is in touch with his emotions ends up being a scout leader.
  • Why pick the name Nick Wilde for the fox? Oscar Wilde was a famous homosexual writer and was condemned by society for his behavior. 
  • As the movie progresses, Judy Hops's parents have reformed and are now partners with a fox who they accept as an equal. What occupation is the fox? A baker. Again the allusion to gays as stereotypical bakers.
  • The evil sheep has a scheme to make the public believe that predators will attack prey. She makes a poison that turns the innocent predators into vicious attackers. The message here is that gays are normal and it only the Christian's wrong bigoted attacks that can convince the public that there is something wrong with gays. The Christians are wrong. The gays are normal.
  • At one point Judy Bunny proclaims that sometimes predators will attack prey because that is just who they are and they can't help themselves. This is hurtful to Nick Wilde to hear something so mean because predators aren't really predators. They are just like prey. Again, there is nothing different about gays. To think so is bigoted.
  • One of the characters in the movie mentions that life is not a live-happily-ever-after-musical cartoon. That used to be the message of Disney movies. Boy meets girl and they live happily ever after. Not this time. In the end the once-scared-of-foxes bunny becomes the police partner to the fox.
  • The movie ends with an upbeat song entitled "Try Everything." While much of the lyrics has the message that you should not give up and try again if you fail, the choice of words to "try everything" is also, in the context of this movie, an invitation to not limit yourself to a normal lifestyle.
  • And what about the very choice of the title of the movie, Zootopia? It is clear allusion to Utopia, an imagined religion free paradise where everyone is equal and everything is perfect. Isn't that what the LGBT community wants?
Welcome to Disney 2016. Would Walt Disney even recognize where it has gone?

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  1. Is this for real?? Really??? Are you being serious?

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    1. I appreciate this well thought out reply to my essay. If you do some inquiry, you will find out that my believe that Zootopia is a gay parable has also been pointed out by those in the LGBT community who see this as a positive things (Example: http://sdgln.com/entertainment/2016/03/04/disneys-wonderful-zootopia-has-lot-lgbt-subtext#sthash.iyuiaXFH.dpbs)
      I probably would not have noticed many of my observations in the context I have written about if it had not been for the scene were the fox is kicked out of scouts. That was a a pretty clear allusion that predators in the context of this movie meant gay. It was after that that I starting seeing the other things.

      One final note, I usually delete comments that included profanity, but I am not doing so in your case, because your points are well thought out and you took time to share your opinion in detail. However, I am hopeful that you could edit out your use of the F-word. I don't think you need vulgar language to support your point. You did quite well without it.

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    2. Honestly speaking, this is ridiculous. I'm not saying that your rant is homophobic or anything similar. But based on what you're writing, it's really overstretching it to a breaking point. This is my reason:-
      - A sheep is chosen as a villain due to them being "timid" or "shy" which makes it reasonable to think that if they were abused and used like in the movie, they'll turn villainous. Think about it, what other animals that could replace the shy and timid prey animal that is the sheep? A cow?
      - When i see predator and prey living together, the obvious thing that pops out is racism. I'm not saying that your take on LGBT message couldn't be interpreted in this context as well. I'm just saying that the LGBT message can only be interpreted if you dig so deep into it and just plastered it on something that is more obvious in this case which is racism.
      -Nothing to do with LGBT community in this point. It just shows that Judy Hops' parents are traditionalist (since they are from the farmer's family). That's it.
      -Another attempt to dig too deep in details. Boy scouts are not the only group to exclude gays, there are countless more others. So much so, it would take a ridiculous amount of time to think of a group that DOES NOT exclude gays. Especially when the plot wants to show the vulnerable side of Nick Wilde.
      -The last name Wilde could also probably be taken as play on word as "wild". Again when you mentioned Oscar Wilde, its kinda overstretching it again. In this generation where social media is evrywhere, Olivia Wilde could also take the place as another famous people. I had to google Oscar Wilde to know who he is and I'm 22. Remember this movie was directed to kids. I dunno about you but i highly doubt kids would know the controversy behind Oscar Wilde or even know his name.
      -Well, take it into perspective. Who would work together with a farmer? A businessman would be too successful for a character like that fox. Any other career that could work together with a farmer would be a chef, baker, or a florist if you wanna stretch it. All of which is labelled as gay. There's literally no escape here.
      -The sheep scheme could also be viewed in terms of racism. Still trying too hard.
      -Refer to the last point
      -Nothing LGBT about that
      -Again, nothing LGBT about trying evrything unless you're viewing it in what i call as "homophobe goggles"
      -Funny thing, Zootopia wasn't going to be the original title according to the creator of the movie. The original title was gonna be Zootropolis. Look it up.

      Reading back at what you've written. Those points could've only emerged if the mind of the viewer keeps thinking about LGBT community the whole time while watching the movie. Which is in my opinion is REALLY narrow minded. I've watched it and honestly I see NOTHING of such sorts in the movie. I mean I HAD to find THIS blog to see why are they calling this movie pro-gay. (Edited note: sorry about the profanity, its fine to take it as a positive note in the LGBT community, but the "attack on chirstians" thing just kinda uncalled for)

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    3. Honestly speaking, this is ridiculous. I'm not saying that your rant is homophobic or anything similar. But based on what you're writing, it's really overstretching it to a breaking point. This is my reason:-
      - A sheep is chosen as a villain due to them being "timid" or "shy" which makes it reasonable to think that if they were abused and used like in the movie, they'll turn villainous. Think about it, what other animals that could replace the shy and timid prey animal that is the sheep? A cow?
      - When i see predator and prey living together, the obvious thing that pops out is racism. I'm not saying that your take on LGBT message couldn't be interpreted in this context as well. I'm just saying that the LGBT message can only be interpreted if you dig so deep into it and just plastered it on something that is more obvious in this case which is racism.
      -Nothing to do with LGBT community in this point. It just shows that Judy Hops' parents are traditionalist (since they are from the farmer's family). That's it.
      -Another attempt to dig too deep in details. Boy scouts are not the only group to exclude gays, there are countless more others. So much so, it would take a ridiculous amount of time to think of a group that DOES NOT exclude gays. Especially when the plot wants to show the vulnerable side of Nick Wilde.
      -The last name Wilde could also probably be taken as play on word as "wild". Again when you mentioned Oscar Wilde, its kinda overstretching it again. In this generation where social media is evrywhere, Olivia Wilde could also take the place as another famous people. I had to google Oscar Wilde to know who he is and I'm 22. Remember this movie was directed to kids. I dunno about you but i highly doubt kids would know the controversy behind Oscar Wilde or even know his name.
      -Well, take it into perspective. Who would work together with a farmer? A businessman would be too successful for a character like that fox. Any other career that could work together with a farmer would be a chef, baker, or a florist if you wanna stretch it. All of which is labelled as gay. There's literally no escape here.
      -The sheep scheme could also be viewed in terms of racism. Still trying too hard.
      -Refer to the last point
      -Nothing LGBT about that
      -Again, nothing LGBT about trying evrything unless you're viewing it in what i call as "homophobe goggles"
      -Funny thing, Zootopia wasn't going to be the original title according to the creator of the movie. The original title was gonna be Zootropolis. Look it up.

      Reading back at what you've written. Those points could've only emerged if the mind of the viewer keeps thinking about LGBT community the whole time while watching the movie. Which is in my opinion is REALLY narrow minded. I've watched it and honestly I see NOTHING of such sorts in the movie. I mean I HAD to find THIS blog to see why are they calling this movie pro-gay. (Edited note: sorry about the profanity, its fine to take it as a positive note in the LGBT community, but the "attack on chirstians" thing just kinda uncalled for)

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    4. We just watched the movie last night and ever since the very beginning, you can spot pro-gay messages there. The sheep on the opening play is wearing the rainbow on its head, clearly an allusion to the gay flag and symbol. Then the cheetah at the front desk... You don't need to be a genious here to notice these messages.

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  3. People are blind with their eyes open:(. Only fool can take this lighty. I think that this movie is made for one reason only and this is the attack on Christians. But they made it so clear that i decided to explain this to my children and will think twice about watching Disney movies in the future.

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  4. I had the same thoughts as you did when I saw the movie, searched the internet, and found this blog with the same opinion as I did. The whole thing is very subtle. Sad to see Disney trying to insert it's political and moral agenda into movies, especially ones for kids.

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    1. Exactly my sentiments. I am aware of Disney's gay agenda. As I previewed this movie prior to allowing our toddler to watch many of these themes that Fiddling Ant describes occurred to me as well, so I googled zootopia and gay agenda and arrived here.

      Unfortunately, Disney et al., are media giants whose reach is vast. The best thing we can do is to teach our children to not relenquish morality rather than let them; media, culture(?), society wrap its tentacles around their minds & hearts.

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  5. I thought the exact same thing as this review. Even my 14 year ond daughter was aware enough to immediately recgonize it

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  6. I thought the exact same thing as this review. Even my 14 year ond daughter was aware enough to immediately recgonize it

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    1. Thanks for the support you expressed in your comments.

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    2. In essence, you're an idiot. Your research was so freakin' poor that you didn't even notice that Judy's last name had 2 p's- not one. Jerk. You're a hateful fundamentalist pig. Nuff said. No movie about Je$u$ or gawd has ever made a BILLION dollars. That should tell you something!

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  8. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-disney-georgia-anti-gay-20160323-story.html.Disney threatens to stop filming in Georgia if anti-gay bill becomes law - of course it is a pro gay film.

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  9. Hi Fiddling Ant!
    Thank you for this review! I have found next to NOTHING about this movie except high praise even from Christian websites. I just watched this movie with my family, my sister and her two kids, and I can safely say I agree with everything you wrote. I didn't pick up on the "Gay" theme, but now that you mentioned it, I could also see that viewpoint as well. My sister and I came to the same conclusions about the theme of the song at the end "Try Everything" which is the satanic mantra for Aleister Crowley and his occultic heritage he has left behind. Also the scene where they went to the Yoga retreat and all the animals were "naked" was very disturbing to me. Of course they are pushing the Hindu/new age agenda as well, and if you want to be free you need to practice these things. blah blah blah.. etc etc. Also I too found it interesting that the sheep were the villains, and did you notice the Lion was also the semi-villain who was the Mayor of Zootopia and went to jail? Who is the Lion, really??? I was just sitting there thinking "Gee, whoever wrote this movie sure does hate Christians, and Christianity. It was blatantly obvious for me. There were some other symbols in the film that pointed to the occult that is so prevalent in Hollywood. If I was ignorant, it was a cute fun movie! Yippi!!! If I was discerning it was disturbing and biased. Nice review! Thank you.

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  10. Even the gay community agrees - it's about them!

    http://www.sdgln.com/entertainment/2016/03/04/disneys-wonderful-zootopia-has-lot-lgbt-subtext

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  11. Thank you for posting this. I only saw a trailer and it had the hairs on my neck standing on end. We won't be watching this one.

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  12. Thank you for posting this. I only saw a trailer and it had the hairs on my neck standing on end. We won't be watching this one.

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  13. I have a 2-3 questions for you: do you feel that watching Disney movies itself is sinful (and if not what movies do you feel are safe); and what about watching fan art and reading fanfiction of the source materials?

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    1. I did not claim that watching Disney movies is sinful. My essay's point is that the movie has a pro-gay message. I am not too familiar with fan art or fan fiction, though I remember reading a very interesting article about the phenomena in Time Magazine a few years ago.

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  14. What if no one sees what you see? Can they still watch the movie as long as it does not affect them negatively?

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    1. All stories have a message.

      Someone can read George Orwell's Animal Farm and if they are uneducated they would not know it is a story about communist Russia. Uneducated people are also unaware that The Wizard of Oz is a message of late 19th century support for the silver standard.

      In communist countries some literature is banned because the state is afraid of messages that criticize the state.

      There is a clear pro-gay slant to this movie. The gay community is nearly always portrayed in a positive light in main stream media these days. This bias is a disservice. A more objective, balanced reporting is nearly always missing, since that would result in complaints of homophobia. As with most cultures, there is the good, the bad, and the ugly with the LGBT community. My thoughts on that subject can be read at: http://fiddlingant.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-good-bad-and-ugly-gay-version_29.html

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    2. Literature is not just banned in communist countries. Google & amazon do the same thing. Except Americans are willfully ignorant to the hypocrisy of it.

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  15. I had the same question after watching the film, "Why a sheep?". Then, I came to this page...

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  16. It's funny because you act as though Christianity is 'normal' even when the bible allows rape, murder, sexism, etc... to be practised. Smh. Zeus ftw!!

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    1. I detect a superficial understanding of Christianity and the Bible in this comment. I recommend you read America's Blessings: How Religion Benefits Everyone, Including Atheists by Rodney Stark. I wrote about it at: http://fiddlingant.blogspot.com/2014/06/where-creationists-are-right.html

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  18. I actually thought the movie had gay messages that's why I came here. Obviously I'm not the only one to think that. It is loud and clear during the movie.

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  19. I think Zootopia talks more about female vs male roles and how the society are demonizing the male role. Predators = males, beware of the males! They are dumb, agressive, and even they could be rapers, is in their DNA.. Nowadays you can try to find an apartment to rent and find a lot of "female only" offers, because, of course.. the males are dangerous..

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    1. That is illegal, to advertise an 'apartment for rent' to females only. However, a ROOM for rent, females only is legal.

      I'm sure the satanists will eventually outlaw this as well.

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  20. There's lots of words as well that are thrown in there like the o i feel better now i thought she was speaking in tongues... are you serious it was like making fun of The gift of the holy spirit which speaking in tongues is the evidence of receiving it according to scripture.

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  21. This is such a troll page lol. My VERY Christian husband is actually writing a artical on all of the good Christian stuff in this movie. Even his "Bible thumping" father agrees this movie is great for Christians. I have seen the movie twice and never seen a part of a male loving a male or female loving a female. So the whole gay thing cracks me up.

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    1. Wow, you must believe everything you see on TV and conversely if it's not on TV it must not be real.

      I guess out in public if gays aren't fornicating before your eyes they must not be gay. Your logic cracks me up, chicken little.

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  22. I watched Zootopia myself the other day and immediately after it I told my wife how many secret messages there are for the Liberal Agenda. She said I am crayz. Good to see -even if I am- I am not crayz alone.
    I do think You missed the most important one however - the ice cream shop scene, where the Shopkeeper refuses to sell ice cream to the Fox. We know all those provocative acts when homosexuals try to buy cakes for their wedding from Christian bakers, and they refuse it and they are punished big time. See the analogy.... ?

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  23. The Bible does NOT say that things like that a re acceptable. The reason for the sexism in the Bible is because, in almost ALL religions, back in those days, males were considered dominant over females. Rape in the Bible? Yes, there have been a couple times when it was mentioned, but each time, the offender had been punished. Take a look at the story of Tamar and Amnon, for instance. Murder? The offenders have ALWAYS been punished, each time they murdered someone. Take a look at the story of David and Bathsheba. David, while trying to hide his sin of adultery that he had committed with Bathsheba (because all humans make mistakes, even ones that are in the Bible), had Bathshebas actual husband 'accidentally' killed in battle. David was punished. David and Bathshebas first child died from sickness, because of David's sin. What is your argument on this, Achilles? And by the way, I am not a homophobic Christian. I do not AGREE with homosexual or lesbian ways, but I treat them with as much respect as I treat anyone else. I have actually become friends with a homosexual man, a lesbian girl, and a bisexual girl. Please, do not judge Christians by saying that they all are homophobic. That isn't true about all Christians. The ones who are homophobic aren't showing the virtues of being a Christian, because Christians are called by God to love their neighbors (everyone that they meet). And about the movie Zootopia.... I've seen this movie twice, and I haven't noticed much homosexual stuff.... But one of the first things that I have noticed was the police cheetah at the front desk. No offense to any homosexuals out there, but I immediately had the feeling that he represented a gay man.

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  24. The Bible does NOT say that things like that a re acceptable. The reason for the sexism in the Bible is because, in almost ALL religions, back in those days, males were considered dominant over females. Rape in the Bible? Yes, there have been a couple times when it was mentioned, but each time, the offender had been punished. Take a look at the story of Tamar and Amnon, for instance. Murder? The offenders have ALWAYS been punished, each time they murdered someone. Take a look at the story of David and Bathsheba. David, while trying to hide his sin of adultery that he had committed with Bathsheba (because all humans make mistakes, even ones that are in the Bible), had Bathshebas actual husband 'accidentally' killed in battle. David was punished. David and Bathshebas first child died from sickness, because of David's sin. What is your argument on this, Achilles? And by the way, I am not a homophobic Christian. I do not AGREE with homosexual or lesbian ways, but I treat them with as much respect as I treat anyone else. I have actually become friends with a homosexual man, a lesbian girl, and a bisexual girl. Please, do not judge Christians by saying that they all are homophobic. That isn't true about all Christians. The ones who are homophobic aren't showing the virtues of being a Christian, because Christians are called by God to love their neighbors (everyone that they meet). And about the movie Zootopia.... I've seen this movie twice, and I haven't noticed much homosexual stuff.... But one of the first things that I have noticed was the police cheetah at the front desk. No offense to any homosexuals out there, but I immediately had the feeling that he represented a gay man.

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    1. Yeah me too but I kinda am fine with the whole gay/lesbian ways

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  25. I rented zootopia and my kids have probably watched it a total of 3 times in the last few days. I've been trying to catch up on household chores while they relaxed and watched the movie, but the more I heard it, the more I couldn't help but think there was some kind of political agenda behind the whole movie. I caught a few pro gay messages, a few messages that poked fun at Christians and other messages regarding racism and sexism. I finally sat down and watched the whole thing to see if I was just being crazy and I certainly think this movie has a very liberal agenda!

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  26. Great stuff! I hope you will review future Disney movie as well since it appears we can expect more of the same.

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  27. Since Walt passed and the the left liberals took over Disney this kind of propaganda will keep coming.

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  28. I honestly think this movie did have a powerful message on prejusism and discrimination, which is one of the many reasons why I love it. I think it is sad my conservative complely missed that even though they liked the movie overall and thought the message on following your dreams and not giving up was good. I tried to bring it up, but they completely ignored it and blew me off. This can not only apply to stuff based on sexual orientation, but also gender identity, race, and religion as well. I think this movie is not only pointing out not discriminating gay people, but black people too. Not to mention Mexicans and Muslims. It can also represent discrimination based on gender, adding femiminsm in there too. As a woman and a demisexual demiromantic person myself, I can relate to a lot of these things. I also want to mention the strong friendship that does not involve romance. It makes me happy as an asexual and aromantic spectrum person to see the whole thing with every kids movie having a romantic plot or subplot die down a lot and becoming more relatable for people are are not straight also. I have been loving a lot of Disney's newer animated films, but this one marks everything that is making me feel that way about them. I only hope they just keep getting better and more clever are we try to make society a more open and diverse place that welcomes more people that ever before. That goes for all other studios in the animation and live action industries out there are well.

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  29. I noticed a lot of symbolism in this film, although more in regards to the police state and even secret societies. Did the makers of this film do it with meaning or just fun creativity one cannot be certain. The rabbit finds the critical clues because of using connections (hacking) into the surveillance cameras in our "Utopian" state. And where does this lead to? A secret society of wolves (alpha is associated with both wolves and superiority) who are using technology to find out how to suppress the animal natures of our predators from coming out. So fun or propaganda? George Orwell said all entertainment was propaganda as it seeks to alter our perceptions. I agree with Orwell. https://freedomfromconscience.wordpress.com/2016/02/09/the-media-is-lies-and-propaganda/

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    1. I am sure you act the opposite in real life.

      Keep talking like that on the internet, you pussy and be thankful that it's anonymous.

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  31. Just after I saw that animal with a rainbow on its head at the beginning of the movie, I felt like I need to search for other people's opinion as I had this strong feeling this is an another "cartoon" with a leftist subtext. An it seems I was correct. And if you watch a lot of cartoons, you can probably see that this happens more and more often - and I am not talking only about that rainbow, but eliminating parents authority, making dads weak and stupid, making girls stronger to become a man and making men weak and gay... Not even mentioning about NWO agenda - destroying nations, promoting multi-kulti and gender shit (you can be anyone, just ignore your nature). For other things I didn't spot in this movie I would like to say "thank you" for the author of this post.

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  32. This was a good read. I love it when homophobes pull a bunch of shit out of their asses to convince themselves that the "War Against Christians" is real. How can you take a wholesome kids' movie about embracing diversity and slander it in the name of your conservative agenda?

    Thanks for the laughs, this was stupidly funny.

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    1. The LGBT scene approves exactly what he states in this article, you emotional moron.

      And by the way, the only people pulling shit out of their ass are faggots. Morong again.

      You are also the only one here who thinks this serious topic is funny. Huh. Morong again.

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  34. Thanks a ton for spreading the truth; although it was not very hard to see in thie movie!

    I would like to clarify on some of the hateful commenters here, clearly, all of whom are gay-right activists. And typical for their kind, they type in a demeanor that is offensive and belittling, and ignorant to facts. Once again and as usual, it is clear to the objective person whom the true bigots and hate-spreaders are. Really, these emotionally unstable, delusional people get on my nerves sometimes.

    Anyway, hopeless morons aside. God is real and so is Jesus, His son. If you start believeing and repenting of your sins through the blood that He shed on the cross for you, then you will have eternel life. So He promises and so it is.

    Greeting from Germany

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    1. Hello I'm a Christian and LGBT community if you're seeing this not all Christians hate LGBT well... I don't find having sex with the opposite sex is bad.so plz don't hate on all Christians some actually are fine with LGBT

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  37. @Unknown: Really? I don't get it. Maybe I don't understand what you wrote. So, you're saying it's ok to have gay sex? First of all, I want to say that I don't hate anybody - so I don't hate gay people. I just don't agree with their lifestyle and I think what they are doeing is wrong. But that's not hate - everybody knows that. Second of all, you cannot trully call yourself a christian and have a gay behavior in the same time. These two things are in two opposite directions. In the Bible there are many verses that tells us about gay behavior and I know that God doesn't aprove living a sinfull life - that doesn't mean God hates the sinner, it means he hates the sin (every sin, whether is stilling, cheating, lying, gossip, etc)

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